[Digital-Mentor] ITT and other bits

Michael Grimes michaeljgrimes at gmail.com
Mon Nov 17 06:41:42 EST 2008


Slef (and everyone else), I meant to add: are you aware of the unofficial
pre-meeting<http://digitalmentor.org/2008/11/next-steps-for-uk-online-centres/#comment-100>on
Wednesday that's been arranged by Citizens Online?
Michael

2008/11/17 Michael Grimes <michaeljgrimes at gmail.com>

> Slef, I wasn't actually aiming my comment at you at all, but generally
> expressing a sadness that that is what invariably happens. Be reasonable ;-)
> To be fair on CLG I suspect that if they were asked for expenses by a
> parish council they would consider it, but I do agree: if they want
> involvement then everyone interested should be able to attend without
> expense. I also wish the workshop had been scheduled much earlier, and that
> a 'new post' button had been available on their forum right from the start,
> as none of this has helped convey an appearance of openness. I agree
> entirely about the problems with CLG's forum, and I too have expressed
> concern. I flagged it up really just to remind this list that discussion is
> also happening there.
>
> I don't run the digital mentor blog but I'm sure that Dave Briggs will look
> at your suggestions. I suspect it's an out-of-the-box Wordpress theme, in
> which case fixing the CSS may be as simple changing the theme. I agree about
> the phone issue: I think there's a mobile plugin for WordPress that might
> help here (Dave?).
>
> I'm also keen that we follow Clare's suggestion of re-wording the intro to
> make it more descriptive and welcoming.
>
> As for hashtags, I'm aware that both #digitalmentor and #digitalmentors are
> currently being used for this discussion.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Michael
>
> 2008/11/17 MJ Ray <mjr at phonecoop.coop>
>
>> "Michael Grimes" <michaeljgrimes at gmail.com> wrote: [...]
>> > It does frustrate me that government departments still don't think of
>> > holding meetings outside London (though for the meeting on Wednesday CLG
>> are
>> > paying expenses for voluntary and community sector organisations (
>> > http://tinyurl.com/58xbmv, bottom of page)).
>>
>> Well done CLG.  Sadly, it still leaves the rest of the third sector
>> and the lower levels of the public sector out in the cold.  (Anyone
>> got a convincing argument to persuade a parish council why they should
>> pay London expenses for that?  I haven't.)
>>
>> > [...] I am somewhat disappointed and baffled that by taking someone
>> else's
>> > initiative, opening it up and encouraging other voices, we open
>> ourselves to
>> > the charge of being exclusive; but that's life I guess.
>>
>> By expressing a concern, I am not making a charge.  Be reasonable.
>>
>> > The meeting in Birmingham last week was unofficial, thrown together by a
>> few
>> > people who wanted to discuss it. That can be done anywhere, by anyone,
>> and I
>> > for one would encourage it to happen. digitalmentor.org is one place
>> where
>> > those discussions can be aired, but don't forget there's also CLG's own
>> > online discussion
>> > forum<http://haveyoursay.communities.gov.uk/forums/77/ShowForum.aspx>
>>
>> CLG's own online discussion doesn't meet CLG's own accessibility
>> policy.  CLG people are aware of the problem and I've had a very nice
>> positive response, but no fix date is known.
>>
>> I've tried to get involved on digitalmentor.org but it's a bit awkward
>> to follow with a lack of "push" methods, mobile-phone-unfriendly
>> display and CSS errors (or is it valid but confuses phones?). My first
>> part of fixing that would be to install subscribe-to-comments but
>> davebriggs doesn't seem to be hearing me on identi.ca, twitter or xmpp
>> lately - anyone else have plugin-installing access?
>>
>> Second would probably be some sort of "Get Involved" or "Join" link
>> and third fixing the CSS.
>>
>> Is there a common hashtag for this yet?  #digitalmentor seems in use.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> MJ Ray (slef)
>> Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small
>> worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/
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>>
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